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Better late than never - part 2

Monday, June 2nd, 2008

As I said before, Texas had no right (and violated several amendments in the Bill of Rights) ro take children from their parents who are members of the FLDS.  At last they are being returned to their homes.

CNN says a Texas judge issued an order Monday allowing parents of hundreds of children seized from a polygamist sect to begin picking up their kids.

With one exception, Judge Barbara Walther told the Department of Family and Protective Services to allow parents to pick up the 440 children starting 10 a.m. Monday.

It’s about time!  What business is it of the state to determine the type a relationship consenting adults wish to have with each other?  IMHO, none. 

Polygamy should be legal, as should homosexual marriages.  I have a hard enough time with one wife - I would probably go insane with two, but it’s no skin off of my back if someone wants to get married.  I don’t care who they get married to.

gk

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Better late than never

Thursday, May 22nd, 2008

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.  Especially regarding news stories and commenting about them…. 

Regarding the FLDS polygamy case, it was just yesterday I said ”the state has based their entire case on anonymous “calls” that may be a hoax.”   I then listed the many Constitutional issues that I saw with the case, and related it to the rights we’ve seen eroded in the “war on terror”.

Today, a Texas State Court of Appeals ruled that the state had no right to remove the children.  Better late than never, but that’s little consolation to those parents and children who were wrongfully separated back in April.

CNN story tonight says “Flanked by the FLDS mothers represented in the case, Balovich said authorities considered the YFZ Ranch one household, an assertion with which the appeals court did not agree.

Therefore, proving that there was abuse in one household did not mean the state could apply that behavior to the entire ranch.

Balovichs’ statement makes sense to me.  Imagine if one person in your subdivision was suspected of abuse, so they took everyones’ kids away.  It’s the same thing.

The CNN story also has this little tidbit: “Police have alleged that a family shelter crisis line received multiple calls March 29 and 30 from a caller claiming to be Sarah Jessop Barlow, age 16.

At least one of the telephones used by “Sarah Barlow” has been traced to a Colorado woman. Police say Rozita Swinton is a person of interest in connection with the reports of abuse at the ranch, but she has not been charged. She does, however, face a charge of providing a false report to authorities in a Colorado case.”

In other words, the facts so far publish are indicating that the entire case is made up.  Someone in Colorado evidently made up the story and called a hotline, so hundreds of kids and parents have been uprooted and falsely accused.  

How many millions of tax dollars has the state wasted on this case so far?  How much money has gone to pay foster parents, to pay for temporary shelter and meals for the women, etc?

Will people in Texas eventually stand up and say “enough is enough”?  Will they prosecute (or sue) the people behind this fraud?  Will they eventually say “go away and leave me the hell alone!” to the state?  One can only hope….

gk

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Texas screwed up

Wednesday, May 21st, 2008

I haven’t said anything about the Texas state raid of the “polygamist compound” but I read a story tonight on FoxNews that kinda ticks me off.  When I get ticked off I need to say something about it, so here goes….

The story is about a supposedly underaged girl who gave birth while in state custody.  The state immediately took the child away and placed it in foster care.  Is this standard in Texas?  Does the state take all children born to underage mothers away from the parents?  I sure hope not!

Another aspect of this case is that the supposed “underage” mother claims to be 22 years old.  Her attorney said “She is 22.”  Shouldn’t the state be required to show some evidence (or at least probable cause) before taking kids from their parents?

But this is the part of the story that ticked me off: 

Child welfare officials and state troopers raided the FLDS’s Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado after a domestic violence shelter received calls from someone claiming to be an abused 16-year-old girl. The girl has never been found and authorities are investigating whether the calls were a hoax.

In other words, the state has based their entire case on anonymous “calls” that may be a hoax.  From what I can tell, Texas has violated the:

Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrents shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.  (Who issued the warrant without having the “16-year-old girl” testify “by Oath or affirmation?”)

Fifth Amendment: No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.  (These people have been deprived of liberty and their property - even their kids! - taken away with no “due process” that I’ve seen.)

Sixth Amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.   (What have these people been charged with?  Who are the witnesses?  Have they been allowed to “confront” (question) the witnesses?)

Eighth Amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.  (Why haven’t these people been released on bail?  I know they can’t be released on bail - because they haven’t been charged with a crime.  Yet the state is holding them against their will without charging them with a crime.  And if taking your kids away with no reason given isn’t “cruel and unusual punishment”, what is?)

Hmmm….  Sounds kinda like Gitmo….   All of you who don’t think it’s a problem to hold people indefinitely without charging them with a crime, raise your hands….  Now, I want all of you with your hands raised to spell Lettre de cachet.

Question: Why is this any different than the people we’re holding in relation to terrorism? 

Answer:  It’s not.  What goes around comes around - when Bush decided it was ok to hold even one person without following the Constitution, we all lost our basic rights.  I hope someone sues the state for this.

gk

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